Young Mike Tyson

Yep. I think some people don't understand that a lot of Ali's punches were fast little point scoring flurries.

If we're talking power punches, Tyson has the fastest hands in heavyweight history, clearly.

He could effortlessly unload an incredibly fast and accurate combination, ALL of them power punches. Perfect positioning, weight shifting, speed and power. Prime Tyson was an offensive marvel.

Watch the Berbick, Holmes and Pinklon fights for examples of Tyson's insane power punch combos. And also the Williams fight for an example of his incredible reactions, timing and accuracy.

 

Corrie Sanders hardly had to eat any leather before he hit Wlad on the chin once or twice and Wlad collapsed :dunno:

 

Corrie Sanders is also 6'5 and a southpaw. Tyson is about 5'9 or so. You can't really use one example to prove that Tyson's going to repeat the feat. That's like saying Holyfield KO'd Douglas in 3 who KO'd prime Tyson therefore Holyfield KOs prime Tyson easily. Doesn't work that way in boxing.:dunno:
Tyson would have to work his way inside on a man much bigger than himself. Especially with those really short arms which makes it a lot harder.

 

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Edited: My bad...he's listed at 6'4"..I didn't realize the m'fer was so tall:doh:

 

Wlad is a pussy. All it takes to beat him down is a few landed punches.
On the other hand, it takes A LOT to put down Mike (well, except his very last fight).
So, Wlad would have to land A LOT on Mike, and Mike would have to land practically NOTHING.
Don't see it happening.

 

He's almost eye to eye with Lewis. As you know, Lewis dwarfed Tyson in comparison.

 

Best combo of speed & power ever, not to mention GREAT defense

 

You keep mentioning size, well size would be the Klits downfall.

We are talking about a young in his prime Mike Tyson here. Do you forget how quick Mike's feet were? Do you forget how Mike could get inside on his opponents at will when he used the style he was taught? Wlad and Vitali are big, and compared to a prime Mike Tyson, very robotic and slow. Mike would have no problem catching up to them and cornering them.

Wlad and Vitali, especially Wlad, have a tendancy to freeze up when attacked, how do you think they would have reacted when attacked by the most explosive heavywieght in history?

Wlad's jab? :laughing: Mike fought an admittedly past his prime Larry Holmes, but Larry did posses the best jab in HW history, how did that fight turn out? And Larry had a chin.

1.Mike= one of if not the best combination of speed and power boxing has ever seen.
2.Mike= one of the best chins boxing has ever seen.

1 + 2 = Klits get KTFO, Wlad in 1rnd, Vitaly quits in 3

I don't care if Klits finaly hit puberty right now and get a growth spurt and are 7'13, Mike makes easy work of these two.

 

Ron got his warning....but you lay off it too, Andrew.

Perfectly legitimate to make a thread in GD appreciating a certain fighter's skills. It's been done countless times with many different fighters.

We can appreciate a fighter's skills and accomplishments without it having to degenerate into the same old "love/hate" debate or having some kind of agenda behind it.

Peace.

 

Tyson at his midget little ass with his tyranosaur arms is too small. 5'9, 215-220lbs prime with a miniscule 71" armspan who couldn't do sh*t in a clinch. How is he gonna get inside on a 6'6, 250lb 2-fisted powerpuncher with a ramrod jab who has clinching down to a science? Not to mention having an 81" reach?
Stop overrating Tyson, he's too small. And his chin would not withstand 12 rounds of Wlad's barrage. This ain't no Michael Spinks light heavyweight he's dealing with. It's superheavyweight punching power raining down from 6'6" and 250lbs of mass.
Look at this pic for a clue on what Tyson would be trying to get inside on.::

 

Yup...and that speed was enhanced by his short, crisp punching....he kept those shots on a minimal arc so that he could bring back his hands quickly and re-set for the next punch. Almost like a pulley system, all rotating from his hips.

It was great to watch.

And when he over-extended to get at a taller/longer opponent; he would quickly leap/work inside behind that shot to smother return fire and be in position to counter and work the body.

And being a natural lefty he could continue firing from a southie stance as you pointed out, which made him that much more dangerous.

Peace.

 

3.Mike = one of the worst fighters in trying to break out of a clinch
4.Mike = having fought in one of the worst eras in boxing history
5.Mike = handpicking the most amount of bums in heavyweight history

He's overrated. And the fanatics on here who ride his jock are americans, it's not like anybody on here is going to support a couple of guys from the Ukraine with funny accents.::

 

Only the great Buster Douglas could knock out Tyson. It's basically impossible for the Klitchko's to hit that hard.

 

The little man has no chance. He'd get smashed! He looked ordinary against big guys. This guy here has an iron chin and a pair of heavy hands. Tyson would get stopped, probably thrown on his ass a few times too during a clinch.

 

And Buster didn't have 1/2 the power of the likes of Lewis and Wlad.::

 

This is easy, i'll just reply to your numbers.

3. Ask Botha if Mike wasn't good at breaking out of a clinch, he almost tore Botha's arm off. Besides, what are the Klits going to do, turn into Super Ruiz's?

4. You want to talk about eras? what era do you want to compare it to? the Klits?:laughing:

5. Handpicking? He cleaned out the division, did he miss somebody?:dunno:

 

.....or the heart opcorn:

 

Holyfield and Lewis......oh yeah.....Buster ::

 

Ramrod jab and 81 inch reach, your almost describing Larry Holmes, but the only similarity is the reach, Larry had a chin and an even better jab. What happend to Larry and his best jab in HW history and his 10 inch reach advantage?

 

Why are you giving me the Botha example? That's f*cking flagrant fouling. The guy tried to do an illegal move that could've gotten himself disqualified. He tried to do the same thing against Holyfield by twisting Holyfield's arm at the elbow in the 2nd fight but Holyfield threw his ass into the ropes and drove his knee into Tyson's ribcage.:: That Holyfield was a bad man!:clap:

5.Yeah, he didn't clean out Buster Douglas did he? The guy wasn't knockout proof, he didn't have an iron jaw either. He never took a bomb from a 6'6, 250lb monster. When he took an uppercut from Lewis, that was it for him. He completely stopped attacking. Prime or not, Tyson lost his heart when his much bigger and stronger opponent stood his ground and levelled him with a bomb to the chin.

 

Hmm, I thought we were talking about a young in his prime Mike Tyson, isn't that what the title of this thread says?

I believe Holy was a cruiser at the time, and Lewis, well even though he is older than Mike, he was nowhere to be found, wonder why that is?:dunno:

 

What happened was a 2 year retirement and a tremendous amount of rust not to mention being 37 years old, flabby and hardly his prime self. That's like saying Danny Williams accomplished something great because he KO'd a 37 year old Tyson. Where's the logic in this?
Furthermore, Larry isn't the Klitschkos. It's a different size, weight and style Tyson is dealing with here against either Klitschko.

 

Lewis was going for a gold medal in the 88 Olympics. That's why he wasn't around to stomp Tyson.

 

He got old.

 

This is getting very easy. Illegal move, WTF is repeatative clinching?:dunno:

5. Young Tyson, in his prime Tyson, not training for two weeks and having cornermen with rubbers for endswell Tyson.

When he took and uppercut from Lewis that was it for him? :laughing: Tyson was done looooooong before that.

 

Young prime Tyson strugled with Tillus and contrary to revisionists history, Tyson ducked Holy to fight Buster.

Lewis was there to be found when he KO Ruddock.

 

LOL, when you are trying to hype Wladimir heart, you know your argumentation is desesperate

 

HMMM, how was Larry able to defeat a young Mercer four years later?
Yeah, it is different, Larry had a chin.:laughing:

 

Amazing how quickly the Tyson fanatics like to point out his win over a 2 year inactive rusty ageing Holmes. But then when you mention Tyson getting KTFO by Douglas, the fanatics bring up the "Oh he was past his prime!" argument. ::

 

Yeah, he got old, and got four years older and beat an undeafeated Mercer.:dunno: