Zits all over Marquez's chest- PED's?

Cdogg is a cunt, but he can't be wrong 100% of the time.

If you care to debate any of my 'ridiculous' opinions, then name the opinion. All I know you and I disagree on is you supporting the pay that the UFC gives its fighters and their business model which I think is/was pathetic and which violates anti-trust principles, respectively. Since we've run those two into the ground, how about a boxing topic? I doubt you even can name one of my boxing opinions you disagree with.

 

He seemed to get his feet crossed on Marquez's conventional stand, thinking he was close to being finished.
It's the best business option for Marquez. If he did it once he could do it again, right? Just ask heavyweight Rahman.

 

Open your mind and look closer. His point is as valid as Pacquaio's 2 wins over Bradley, 2 wins over Barrera and his 3 wins over Marquez...

 

He Compared Roy Jones to GGG, who To Date has Fought NOBODY of Note...It's a SHAME when Chavez Jr. was Gonna Be THE BEST Guy You've Faced...

Conversely, YOU Accused Marquez of Being SCARED of Pacquiao, Despite Facing him 4 Times AND Knocking Him THE FUCK Out...

How Much CLOSER Should REED Look???...




REED:dunno:

 

Shumenov does have the style to beat hopkins, he just lacked the commitment to beating hopkins.
If you thought that was such a bad opinion, you should have called me out and bet.

I'd prefer not to bet against Ward because I like him, but I will take GGG and the 2 weeks' away odds if he fights Ward.

You're not one of the people I was thinking of, btw. That's trpl and tfk. So either bet or come up with a new topic.

 

Yes, this is really analogous because Rahman outboxed Lewis on 3 other occasions and made him look silly, with Lewis incapable of knocking him out at any point. Also, Rahman is considered an ATG fighter just like Marquez.

 

:l3:

 

I'd like that :bears:

 

I don't like mikE. I think for the most part his conclusions are absurd and arrived at in ways that strike me as profoundly illogical/misguided... He doesn't like me. We make no secret of that with one another.

However, as he said of me, "cdogg can't be wrong 100% of the time", the same applies to him. Sometimes, inevitably, mikE is correct. Sometimes he sees something the same way I do. On this occassion, he is seeing the same thing I am.

Marquez is vulnerable to this type of marauding, physical fighter. He has historically been vulnerable to this sort of fighter. He is 40 years old. For all of his still impressive punch selection and execution, he is very hittable and he gets hurt when he gets hit. There's no reason to assume he wins a walkover in such a matchup. There's no precedent for it. There is every reason to take for granted he will be hit and hurt at some point (likely several points) because it has happened over and over again.

I'm not necessarily surprised people disagree with me or mikE about Provo winning, but I'm shocked at the people who actually think he'd subject the guy to some sort of schooling/shellacking. There's not a reason in hell to anticipate an outcome like that.

 

I just have a different opinion. Marquez, to me, is a good FIGHTER, but his greatness to others comes from one series of fights with an ATG Filipino. I disagree that Marquez has made Pacquaio looked silly. All their fights were competitive because of their styles but if Juan Manuel would SFTU and sign for a fifth fight, it could possibly prove that KO was Rahman like FLUKE and steroid induced.

I agree with Floyd, Marquez needs to agree to PED testing, then if he beats Manny fair and square, then so be it, I'll accept it no problem.

I'm sure people would be pretty upset if Tarver's KO of Roy Jones would come under steroid suspicion.

 

:: I didn't think my little shot at Freitas would cause that kind of reaction! At least it got the thread going.

 

It's just old and always unrelated to the subject at hand. Jesus of Montreal made a great post explaining why it's irrelevant. My love of boxing continues, I've moved on from my disappointment with a FIGHTER. I've posted here since forever, learned a lot from this forum. I hope you could move on too and we could continue to discuss the sport that we love so much...

 

Stop being overly dramatic about that, it was a harmless jab at you, you've been here for a long time, you should know this is rather common here.

As for jesus of montreal, I couldn't care less about what he said.

 

You Seem like a GOOD Dude, Fighter...

You're a Looooooooooooooooongtime, PASSIONATE Member of Fightbeat...The Site NEEDS Posters like You...Baron Took a HARMLESS Little Poke @ You, Bro...Don't Take it Soooooo Seriously...

Hell, 10 Years AFTER the Fact, REED Still Takes Jabs for Being an RJ Nuthugger...It Comes w/the Territory...Either ROLL w/the Jabs or Fire a COUNTER...




REED:love:

 

Listen, being born in Rio de Janeiro, we are very nationalistic, which goes beyond rational, you think with your heart. Same goes for Mexico, Puerto Rico no doubt. We can't let our love of country or race to fog reality. It just doesn't add anything meaningful to the discussion. I'm more interested in knowing why the fuck no one could counter Mayweather's jab to the body than redirection of the issue at hand...

 

Right back at ya bra. If during a conversation about Wlad's heavyweight reign somebody tries to invalidate your opinion because of your admiration of Roy or me rooting for Freitas, then it becomes a redirection, distraction not adding any value to members or guests.

The majority of your posts bring passion, insight and knowledge which adds valuable life to our forum, but remember keep your chin down, guard up and protect yourself at all times, because sooner or later I'll counter the hell of you...

Much RESPECT.

 

That's a fairly anti-JMM analysis which rather ignores the fact that, notwithstanding his usual sticky spots, he eventually went on to kick the shit out of Diaz and Katsidis. You also seem to forget that although JMM is easily knocked down he has shown about a million times that his recovery powers are absolutely outstanding and he has never been knocked out in over sixty fights. MAB, Pac, Floyd, Casamayor and Katsidis all hit him plenty and he never looked like being stopped.

MTF

 

He didn't look like being stopped in the first PAC fight? Come on now

not one of those guys hits as hard as Provo and only one of them hit a 39/40 year old JMM

 

Provo lost UD to Mauricio Herrera & with Bradley fighting stupid. Marquez murders that one trick pony.

 

i think in my mynd tat markez wood bow down to prohovknidkov specialy how ghaywether strugled wif a similar boxer in maydana

 

Provolone would wish he was Swiss after JMAcne got him !
I think after JMM drops him. He should squeeze a pimple and pop it into provolones mouth

 

jmm to chets acknee to stireods to skiled

 

This. At the time he looked in serious trouble. We can see now that he wasn't - he gets knocked down loads but always recovers very quickly. It's one of his main strengths.

MTF

 

Good god

It's approaching cult levels now

Sure, he gets knocked down and hurt all the time, including by guys who can't punch and this has been going on for years... But, it is absolutely preposterous to think he'll do anything other than easily defeat the strongest, hardest hitting guy he's ever faced at the age of 40... How dare you suggest otherwise, cdogg? This bum he's facing hasn't done anything other than nearly knocking out the same guy he lost a decision to and knocking out the guy he just decisioned... ATG, living legend, king of mexico, knocked down thrice in one round but was just doing that to make it more interesting, not because he was badly hurt...

 

Clogg overreacting to perceived overreactions by others, there.

MTF ::

 

When others are predicting a 40 year old man to stomp a guy like Provo on the basis of things like "he is teh legendary wit powerz and skillz and pacquwo and hez gratest messican of are time and teh provoz is not ready for him", it's hard not to be utterly baffled by the refusal to see reality::

 

But do provolone got the skills like JMM?

dont forget JMM STRETCHED your lover PAC