Ahhh.... it has begun.... the stupidity of casual fans...

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  1. Muzse

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    You forgot to add he REEDtired for 6 months to come back and take a break which was 3 times longer than his REEDtirement.

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  2. Slice N Dice

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    Na it was seen as a massive fight, plus the opinion on who would win was split pretty much down the middle on this board:

    http://fightbeat.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-16712.html?
     
  3. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Good catch. I probably was projecting my impression of that fight upon others, cause I pretty much cease to view DLH as a credible fighter after the Hopkins debacle (as seen in the thread you posted, lol). But to be honest, a lot of those that picked him were DLH nuthuggers and considering how the rest of DLH career went after that fight, it's hard to claim he was a dangerous opponent when PBF faced him

    BTW, WTF is going on in you sig?
     
  4. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    This is a terrible argument, especially in a thread which is about a boxing match between a boxing novice and the best p4p boxer, which might beat all known ppv record (it was obvious I was referring to the interest among hardcore boxing fans, not mainstream media influenced fans). But then, logical thinking has never been your strong suit :lol:
     
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  5. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

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    Haha yeah I saw your comment on the thread :lol:. I think I remember picking Floyd purely because he's one of those guys you never pick against but I remember wondering how he was going to cope with the size difference. In hindsight though you're right. The sig is from a UK sitcom called People Just Do Nothing.
     
  6. Destruction and Mayhem

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    Nah, you were just being a contrarian French Canadian cunt. ;)
     
  7. Destruction and Mayhem

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    Floyd has a fragile ego. Everyone knows this. Larry Merchant got under his skin and he cried like a baby and retired. That's why Merchant inadvertently upset him again...after the Ortiz fight which lead to another meltdown "You know what...y'all never give me any credit...you don't know shit about boxing!!...boo hoo"

    Floyd has always had thin skin although he tries to pretend he doesn't.

    However, in the ring he's fearless...and he has ducked no one!

    You have to be able to separate the man from the fighter.
     
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    Larry Merchant KO1 Floyd
     
  9. REEDsART

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    Nah, he Flat Out DUCKED Pacquiao for 5 Years, Bruh...

    You KNOW this as Well as REED Does...Making Matters Worse, Floyd INSISTED on Unprecedented Drug Testing (Above and BEYOND NSAC Testing), just to Sign the Fucking Contract...Then, Finally Got in the Ring w/Manny and Couldn't have Been LESS Combative...

    But Let's Take it BACK to the Mosely, Cotto, Williams, Margarito 4-Some...Again, While They were Facing EACH OTHER, Floyd was Fighting JM Marquez...There's NO Positive Spin to Place on Marquez as a WELTERWEIGHT Foe of Floyd's, NONE...

    Floyd NEVER Faced Williams, NEVER Faced Margarito...Only Faced Cotto AFTER Losses to Margarito, Pac and a TOUGH Win Over Clottey...Had SEVERAL Years he Could've Faced Shane, but "Conveniently" Waited Until Shane had ALREADY Lost to Forrest (2x), the Wink (2x) AND Cotto (Not to Mention a TOUGHER than Expected Fight w/Mayorga), Before Facing Him...

    Sorry, but a "Fearless" Fighter DOESN'T Wait for Vulnerabilities, Before Facing a Designated Opponent...Hell, if NOT for Marquez KO'ing Pac, Floyd NEVER Would've Mustered Up the BALLS to Get in the Ring w//Manny...






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  10. Double L

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  11. mikE

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    Exactly. But, without the wink.
     
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  13. Anthony

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    Not just for MMA. It would really revive boxing on a popular scale again.
     
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    It was a close and competitive fight.
     
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    Nah, Floyd LOSING to McGregor in a Boxing Match Would Be the BLACKEST OF "Black Eyes" on the Sport...

    A Large Segment of Casual Fans Would NEVER Watch a Boxing Match Again, Under the Rationale, "McGregor just BEAT 1 of the Best Boxers EVER, in his Pro Boxing Debut, Boxing's a Joke!"...

    As it Pertains to MMA and the Ongoing Battle for the Combative Sports Dollar, this Would UNDERMINE Boxing a Great Deal, Perhaps Irrevocably....









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  16. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    nah man, Boxing fans didn't really care about that fight. Or at the very least, DLH wasn't the guy most wanted to see PBF fight at the time.

    This was the Ring ranking a month or two before the fight.

    http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_2006
     
  17. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    It was a semi sham fight that looked more like a sparring session than anythng else. Which wasn't surprising considering DLH was a semi retired con artist at the time
     
  18. Anthony

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    But it would cause a huge competition between the two. You would see these fights more often. And it generate interest around the world.
     
  19. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    yep. Anthony comment makes no sense at all. Unless Mcgregor start boxing full time afterward.
     
  20. Anthony

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    It would cause many other MMA fighters to try their hand at the sport of boxing, and i think it would bring lot's of boxers to try their hand at MMA. If Conor Beat Floyd, every boxer in the world would be calling The Irishman Out.

    Right now, boxing has no superstars. I think if Floyd gets beat, superstars can emerge.
     
  21. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I don't see it. When Overeem beat Badr Hari, who was the best K1 guy at the time, K1 execs said that if Overeem won again in the rematch, it would pretty much kill K1 since it would mean that mma guys were better at the sport than K1 guys (k1 never recovered from this anyway), and there was no reason for it to exist therefore. Same thing would happen with boxing imo
     
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    Boxing's history is too long and rich for that to happen. Competition always is a plus. Also, Overeem started in Kickboxing before MMA. Of course he wasnt good at it first, but when he returned To K1, he was much better and was competitive. He beat some of the best but he was beaten to. And he is Grand Champion. But when Badr Hari knocked Overeem out, that was one of the biggest moments in Kickboxing History.
     
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    It was competitive, but I wouldn't call it close. Obviously not a wipeout or anything on the scorecards but a comfortable margin of victory IMO.
     
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    It was a split decision victory for Mayweather.
     
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    anthony watched that particular fight on petreTransGenders 1000 foot HD projector
     
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    Considering that you're a Roy Jones fan I'm surprised you criticize Floyd in the same way the Roy Haters criticized Roy. Being a Roy Jones fan, like me, you know that in his prime he was actually penalized (in fan opinion) for winning fights easily. When a guy wins a fight easily, fans start suggesting that his opponent is a bum. It's a crazy logic. You and I used to defend Roy's easy wins over Toney, Hill and other top fighters as proving that Jones was just that good....when his haters were suggesting that Toney was just fat and weight drained and that he beat Virgil "Over the" Hill.

    Floyd suffers from the same thing...and you of all people champion that bandwagon.

    With Marquez....two things:

    1. This was Floyd's comeback fight after a long stretch of inactivity. In comeback fights, usually guys pick someone who will "warm them up". Ali did it with Quarry. Tyson did it with McNeely. Why aren't you consistent with your outrage? You're the boxing fan equivalent of Fox News.
    2. Marquez was no bum. He may have been small but, in the words of Larry Holmes, "So fucking what?". Pacquiao had beaten Cotto in one-sided fashion, Margarito, Clottey, De La Hoya...but Marquez gave Pacquiao HELL every time he fought him.....even infamously knocking him the fuck out. Marquez was a legit great fighter moving up in weight. Marquez had beaten Barrera, Casamayor, Diaz, Katsidis. He was a great smaller fighter moving up. Many guys in history have faced great smaller fighters moving up. Hagler and Leonard did it with Duran. Pryor did it with Arguello. Robinson did it with Basilio. WHERE WAS YOUR OUTRAGE THEN?

    Floyd-Pacquiao....no blame for Pacquiao?

    As for Floyd fighting Shane but waited for him to lose 2x to Forrest and then 2x to Wright....dude you're entire post loses credibility after posting that bullshit. lol

    When Shane was fighting Forrest...Mayweather was still at 130lbs. I wont dignify any of that nonsense with anymore response on that.
     
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    DLH was more competitive than Canelo, Marquez, Berto, Ortiz, Pac or Hatton
     
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    And many had DLH winning it as well.
     
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    To Paraphrase the Looooovely Jill Scott, You're like a DICKmotized Female, Toooo Caught Up in LUST and INFATUATION to See or Think Clearly...

    The Difference btwn Roy and Floyd is...

    1. Roy Didn't Have 1/10th the "Name" Opponents Floyd Did, In and Around his Weight Classes...

    2. Roy was the Naturally SMALLER Man in All of his Lightheavy Bouts, Save for Griffin (Who was Shorter, yet Considerably THICKER than Roy)...Roy was 5'10-5'11 Facing 6'1-6'2-6'3 Guys of VARYING Styles, Coming In @ Damn Near 200lbs on Fightnight, While Roy was BARELY Cracking 180, if That...

    Roy WASN'T Routinely Cherrypicking Shorter Guys, w/Shorter Arms OR Guys that were Moving Up 1-2 Weight Classes...Otis Grant is the ONLY Guy REED Can Think of, that Moved Up to Face Roy @ Lightheavy...

    Could You IMAGINE Floyd Moving Up 2 Weight Divisions and GIVING AWAY 20+ Lbs on the OFFICIAL Scale, to an Opponent???...Nope, REED Couldn't Imagine That Either...

    Instead of Pathetically Trying to Drag OTHERS DOWN w/Floyd, Allow Your Boy to STAND On his OWN Merit, Bruh..."But....But...But Ray Leonard Did This....Ali Did That...Roy Jones Did This"...NONE of Them Flat Out DUCKED a Bout the Way Floyd Did for 5 Fucking Years, Sly...PERIOD...That's EXCLUSIVE to Floyd...

    @ WELTERWEIGHT, Marquez was Pretty Much a BUM...Aside from KO'ing Pacquiao WHAT ELSE Did he Accomplish @ the Weight???...Having the STYLE to Give Pacquiao (Who WASN'T a Fucking '47 Pounder Either) Fits ISN'T a Feather in Marquez's Welterweight Cap, Sorry...

    On that Note, Anybody that KNOWS Boxing Knew in Advance Marquez WOULDN'T Be Competitive w/Floyd...In a Battle of Counterpunchers, SIZE is EVERYTHING...

    An UNDERSIZED Counterpuncher w/LEAKY Defense has a ZERO % Chance of Beating Floyd...That Goes w/Out Saying...Marquez had as Much of a Chance of Beating Floyd, as Floyd Did of Moving Up 2 Weight Classes and Beating Roy Jones...Or Roy Jones Moving Up 2 Weight Classes and Beating Cassius Clay...

    Marquez was a TERRIBLE Choice in Opponent, Especially in Lieu of Margarito, Williams, Cotto or Mosley...When Leonard Fought Duran, Duran had ALREADY Beaten Palomino @ '47 First...

    When Hagler Fought Duran, Duran had ALREADY Fought @ '54 for a Couple YEARS...WHO Had Marquez Fought, Nevermind BEATEN, When he Moved Up 2 Weight Classes to Face Floyd (Who RENEGED on the Contractually agREED Upon Catchweight, to Make Matters WORSE)???...

    REED Places 5-10% of the Blame on Pacquiao MAX, for the Floyd Fight NOT Taking Place Sooner...Wouldn't Surprise REED if You Gave Pacquiao 51% (or MORE) of the Blame...

    You're INTENTIONALLY Missing REED's Sugar Shane Point, ATTEMPTING to Save Face for Your Hero...There was a BLUEPRINT Out on Shane, Before Floyd Dared Face Him...

    Dude was Sitting on 5 Losses, a Controversial Win in the RE w/DeLa AND a Closer than Expected Scrap w/Mayorga, yet YOU Persist in Clinging to the Margarito Victory as Some Sort of PROOF that Shane was Still in his Prime, When he Categorically WASN'T...






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    meanwhile, jones jr is broke and still fighting a decade past his expiration date. :Con:
     

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