I feel Sanchez would have beaten Pedroza in a tough fight. Pedroza would have given him Hell, but I feel Sal had an extra gear in him that Pedroza lacked. Plus, Sanchez would be able to hurt Pedroza, whereas the reverse isn't really true.
I don't know, man It's hard to imagine a great fighter being picked to lose to Carlos Baldomir by anyone... If somebody is doing that, then you must be underrated
Huhhhhhhhhh????? What brain dead tard picked Baldomir over Lamotta?? That's like picking Leo Dorin over Pryor.
There is a SERIOUS question for how Pedroza handles Sanchez's power. I could see Sal stopping him late while behind on the cards.
Jaws did and he had a surprising amount of agreement (Sly, of course) ... at least 3 or 4 dumbasses agreed with him... That was when I knew the decline of Western Civilization was unstoppable
Yup. I see Jofre mentioned more on here and included in more mythical match ups but the guy who beat him hardly gets a look in.
I stopped taking Sly seriously as a poster about 15 years ago when he said Mamadou Thiam could beat a prime Mosley.
Bang on :bears: One of the most underrated fighters ever IMO. Like you said, he fought on fairly even terms with LaMotta with ONE ARM ffs. I have no doubt he would have beaten Jake decisively with the use of both arms.
Good point :: I do feel LaMotta has perhaps become slightly underrated. If we ignore glamourised, fictional bullshit like Raging Bull - he seems to be considered scrubbier than he really was these days. He was somewhat basic and crude, and he could fight, no question.
I expected LaMotta to fight like Mickey Ward the first time i watched films of him I was like "WTF? This guy fights really well and clearly has some skill going on" ... All that Sugar bullshit and the movie make him out to be Tex Cobb and retards lap it up... Plus, he's white and it's not in color so obviously it has to suck, etc.
if the criteria for being underrated is being picked to lose against a c-level fighter by an idiot, then pretty much every fighters is underrated, cause theyre's no shortage of idiots. Still, no sensible persons think that Bumdomir would beat Lamotta, and I think that most tend to give him his due credit or to slightly overrate him
I would say that qawi is slightly underrated. Because of the Spinks fight, it seems that a lot of people think that anyone with a good jab could outbox him
Here is a discussion about that pick http://fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?17737-Jake-LaMotta-Vs-Carlos-Baldomir E: Actually on page 2 Jaws says that Robinson might have lost 1 out of 6 to Baldomir...
Jaws would rate guys solely on Color TV... If a guy fought when there was color TV, he was legit This is a guy who referred to Cervantes and Locche as "poo" and Alexis Arguello as "an overrated puncher"
I don't think Tyson is underrated ANYMORE. He used to be. Back when he was active, and hated by the public, people underrated how good he was in his prime. Now that he's retired, and has completely changed his public image, people not only like him more, but now they appreciate how special he was. Especially after we've had to suffer for a decade of these boring fag sisters ruling the division. Theyll NEVER be another heavyweight like Mike. I think people know that now that he's gone. Tyson, and Ali are the two rarest heavyweights of all time. They'll never be anything like either one.
Tyson has alternated between being massively overrated and underrated over the years. On one hand you had the "Tyson KO1 everyone in history" folks (many of them toddlers while Tyson was fighting in the late 80s) and then the others who tried to make it seem like Tyson was lost against anyone who stood up to him ( a big exaggeration). By now Tyson seems to have settled into where he belongs...somewhere in the Top Ten, probably more toward the bottom of it.
Also, Alfredo Escalera was a C-Level fighter and Ali wouldn't do any better against Tyson than Biggs did.